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tom  
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 More options Mar 13, 5:38 pm
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna
From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:38:26 -0600
Local: Sat, Mar 13 2010 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

Bill wrote:
> Has anybody ever had a QSL with Art?

> "Antenna here is a ..."

Based on his "designs", which don't seem to exist except as whimsical
nonsense, I would wager large amounts of cash that you couldn't possibly
have a QSO with him.

tom
K0TAR


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 More options Mar 13, 5:42 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:42:48 -0600
Local: Sat, Mar 13 2010 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

tom wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Has anybody ever had a QSL with Art?

>> "Antenna here is a ..."

> Based on his "designs", which don't seem to exist except as whimsical
> nonsense, I would wager large amounts of cash that you couldn't possibly
> have a QSO with him.

> tom
> K0TAR

Hey Art!

How about a sched?  You give the frequency and time.  I'm good on 40m
through 6.

tom
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 More options Mar 14, 11:14 am
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From: "John" <johnasie...@optonline.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:14:46 -0400
Local: Sun, Mar 14 2010 11:14 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

"Bill" <k4...@arrl.net> wrote in message

news:a9a4ed5a-1b1e-4f94-895b-52ac98ecbfe1@t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 14, 3:38 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

> Based on his "designs", which don't seem to exist except as whimsical
> nonsense, I would wager large amounts of cash that you couldn't possibly
> have a QSO with him.

> tom
> K0TAR
>>He should submit his articles for every April QST issue.

But the April articles are wrutten to appear plausible

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 More options Mar 14, 2:52 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:52:27 -0500
Local: Sun, Mar 14 2010 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

Aaarrrttt!!  Where are you?

Let's have a nice QSO with you using you wondertenna.

Of course we will never know how it really works since you'll have to
use a conventional antenna for the QSO because your wondertenna radiates
like a dummy load.

tom
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 More options Mar 14, 3:05 pm
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From: jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 15, 5:14 am, "John" <johnasie...@optonline.net> wrote:

> "Bill" <k4...@arrl.net> wrote in message

> news:a9a4ed5a-1b1e-4f94-895b-52ac98ecbfe1@t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 14, 3:38 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

  All we need now are posts from  "Dick"  and  "Harry"  and we will
have the true measure of the posters on this thread.

Jaro


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tom  
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 More options Mar 14, 4:07 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:07:43 -0500
Local: Sun, Mar 14 2010 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

Bill wrote:
> On Mar 15, 1:05 am, jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 15, 5:14 am, "John" <johnasie...@optonline.net> wrote:

>>> "Bill" <k4...@arrl.net> wrote in message
>>> news:a9a4ed5a-1b1e-4f94-895b-52ac98ecbfe1@t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 14, 3:38 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:
>>   All we need now are posts from  "Dick"  and  "Harry"  and we will
>> have the true measure of the posters on this thread.

>> Jaro

> Measure this.

> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Special:Contributions&target=User:Arthur%20...

Well he seems to have contributed something.

Something which is not identifiable as actually useful, but something
none the less.

I anxiously await his contributions.

tom
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Jeff Liebermann  
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 More options Mar 14, 6:30 pm
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From: Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:30:42 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 14 2010 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:07:43 -0500, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:
>I anxiously await his contributions.
>tom
>K0TAR

Art's patents:

Constant impedance matching system
<http://www.google.com/patents?id=hCMpAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,790,081>

Variable capacitance antenna for multiband reception and transmission
<http://www.google.com/patents?id=GEsbAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,625,367>

Push button arranged for mounting to a panel
<http://www.google.com/patents?id=qaY3AAAAEBAJ>

Push button assembly
<http://www.google.com/patents?id=YF0tAAAAEBAJ>

--
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150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Bill  
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 More options Mar 15, 6:57 pm
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From: Bill <k4...@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 15, 4:30 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Constant impedance matching system
> <http://www.google.com/patents?id=hCMpAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,790,081>

http://www.contesting.com/forums/Tips/1240

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 More options Mar 15, 7:06 pm
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From: Bill <k4...@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 15 2010 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

> Variable capacitance antenna for multiband reception and transmission
> <http://www.google.com/patents?id=GEsbAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,625,367>

There is an amazing difference between the writing here:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...

and the bafflegab we have been getting recently..


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 More options Mar 15, 8:30 pm
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From: n...@wt.net
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 15 2010 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 16, 12:06 am, Bill <k4...@arrl.net> wrote:

> > Variable capacitance antenna for multiband reception and transmission
> > <http://www.google.com/patents?id=GEsbAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,625,367>

> There is an amazing difference between the writing here:

> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...

> and the bafflegab we have been getting recently..

What is amazing is that you can use incorrect information
to describe a patent, and no one seems to notice or care.
Such as this vital tidbit of information...

Quote from United States Patent         5,625,367
"To increase the directivity of such an antenna, a parasitic
reflector element, usually tuned to a frequency slightly higher
than the driver resonant frequency, can be placed parallel to
the driver element along the boom. For further increased directivity,
one or more director elements, usually tuned to frequencies slightly
lower than the driver resonant frequency, can be placed at various
distances along the boom on the other side of the driver element
and parallel to the driver element."

Now I don't have the degree in mechanical engineering that Art has
and may have taken advantage of before he became senile and
decided to venture into antenna design, but danged if something
in this description just doesn't seem quite right to this semi-
literate
ignorant redneck. :/

I think it gives a fairly good indication of the level of attention
given
to the claims and descriptions offered during the patent process.

BTW, don't mind Jaroslav... That's just Art's latest trunk monkey
that pops out when the red button is pushed.


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 More options Mar 16, 10:59 am
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From: JIMMIE <JIMMIEDEE...@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:59:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 16 2010 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 16, 2:30 am, n...@wt.net wrote:

There is too much consistency to Art's rantings for him to be the
senile old man he pretends to be. More and more I think he is a troll.
My guess is someone from the CB newsgroup that often x-posts here. If
I am wrong I sincerely apologize to Art for I know I could through a
blot clot and be the next person with nothing better to do all day
than post the warped fantasies of my damaged mind on a newsgroup.

Jimmie

Jimmie


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 More options Mar 16, 3:51 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:51:19 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 16 2010 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

Well, I guess "Mister Master Antenna Designer" knows exactly how well
his antennas work.

Just as I expected.

tom
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 More options Mar 17, 12:45 pm
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From: Dave <k1...@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 17 2010 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 16, 5:34 am, Bill <k4...@arrl.net> wrote:

> On Mar 15, 4:30 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:

> > Variable capacitance antenna for multiband reception and transmission
> > <http://www.google.com/patents?id=GEsbAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,625,367>

> Ah, jeeze, this is going over old groung:

> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/browse_threa...

oh wow, a twofer... art and fracky in the same thread!

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jaroslav lipka  
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 More options Mar 18, 4:50 pm
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From: jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:50:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 18 2010 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 14, 11:38 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

> Bill wrote:
> > Has anybody ever had a QSL with Art?

> > "Antenna here is a ..."

> Based on his "designs", which don't seem to exist except as whimsical
> nonsense, I would wager large amounts of cash that you couldn't possibly
> have a QSO with him.

> tom
> K0TAR

 Purely as a matter of interest how much is your large amount of cash?

 Jaro


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 More options Mar 18, 4:58 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Mar 18 2010 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

jaroslav lipka wrote:
> On Mar 14, 11:38 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Has anybody ever had a QSL with Art?
>>> "Antenna here is a ..."
>> Based on his "designs", which don't seem to exist except as whimsical
>> nonsense, I would wager large amounts of cash that you couldn't possibly
>> have a QSO with him.

>> tom
>> K0TAR

>  Purely as a matter of interest how much is your large amount of cash?

>  Jaro

Larger by far than your contributions to this newsgroup.  Which so far
have been zero, since all you do is snipe.

tom
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Art Unwin  
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 More options Mar 18, 6:08 pm
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From: Art Unwin <arthurun...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 18 2010 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 18, 9:58 pm, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

Large amount of cash! How much and when? Who holds the cash?

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 More options Mar 19, 3:21 am
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From: jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 3:21 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 19, 10:58 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

    Pot - Kettle - Black ?

     I ask again,  How much?

 Jaro


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 More options Mar 19, 6:17 am
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From: Richard Clark <kb7...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:31 -0700
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 6:17 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:21:09 -0700 (PDT), jaroslav lipka

<jaroli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     I ask again,  How much?

If you have a dog in this fight, how much are you willing to cover?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


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 More options Mar 19, 9:43 am
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From: Art Unwin <arthurun...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 9:43 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 18, 9:50 pm, jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would have a qso with anybody for a large amount of cash but the
fact is when they hear me they would not answer so they don't have to
pay out.!
They are not men or women of honour, they are losers.
Look at the last 40 posts made by K0TAR and make your own decision as
to what sort of idiot he is! He is not here to provide technical info
in any way, just gutter talk.
Was it not you that was willing to put up $1000 a year ago which I
also wanted a piece of
and they all ran away? As I said, they are not women of honour.

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 More options Mar 19, 11:26 am
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From: n...@wt.net
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 11:26 am
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 19, 2:43 pm, Art Unwin <arthurun...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't see what it would prove. It's a known fact that people
have made contacts using dummy loads for years.
I myself once had a qso using a light bulb as my antenna.
I didn't apply for a patent. I knew it was prior art.  :/

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 More options Mar 19, 2:54 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:54:54 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

I did not offer to have a QSO for cash.  Obviously you cannot read.

You accuse me of being dishonorable and then call me an idiot.  Quite
the gentleman.

You also say I offered 1000 dollars for something a year ago.  You are
hallucinating again.

And then you give a backhanded insult to me, and to women.

You should be quite proud of yourself.

So, as I offered several days ago, and you didn't respond to, how about
a QSO on your wonder antenna?

I will require an impartial observer to give evidence that you actually
use the "Faraday Shield Thingy Antenna" you think is so wonderful, since
I also believe you not to be a man of honor.

tom
K0TAR


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 More options Mar 19, 3:25 pm
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From: jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 20, 8:54 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

       wriggle---wriggle

  Re-read your first post on this thread,
 quote  "I would wager large amounts of cash"

Jaro


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 More options Mar 19, 3:37 pm
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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:37:33 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

Jaro.

Please reread all of what was in the posted sequence you are
referencing.  Exactly what I wrote is near the top end of what is in
this very message.

I never offered anything to Art, I wagered that others would not be able
to have a QSO with him.  Implying that they wouldn't be able to hear him
if that helps you understand.

tom
K0TAR


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jaroslav lipka  
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 More options Mar 19, 3:52 pm
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From: jaroslav lipka <jaroli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna
On Mar 20, 9:37 am, tom <news4...@taring.org> wrote:

       quote  "I would wager large amounts of cash you couldn't
possibly
have a QSO with him"

        I ask again how much is your large amount of cash?

     Jaro


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From: tom <news4...@taring.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:06:21 -0500
Local: Fri, Mar 19 2010 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: Art's quiet mesh antenna

GOAT

If you don't know what that means I would suggest using google.

tom
K0TAR


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