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  <title type="text">Atheism vs Christianity Google Group</title>
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  Welcome to Atheism vs Christianity. A site for continuous, lively and engaging debate between atheists and theists. All religions are invited to take on the challenges offered by atheists to your beliefs.
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  <updated>2010-03-10T18:15:03Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T18:15:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/ec7e1fa75d7ce5f9?show_docid=ec7e1fa75d7ce5f9</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  I believe the Confession puts it well: &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;We may be moved and induced by the testimony of the Church to an high &lt;br&gt; and reverent esteem of the holy Scripture; and the heavenliness of the &lt;br&gt; matter, the efficacy of the doctrine, the majesty of the style, the &lt;br&gt; consent of all the parts, the scope of the whole (which is to give all
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:12:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/2a3be48d82ad4827?show_docid=2a3be48d82ad4827</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/2a3be48d82ad4827?show_docid=2a3be48d82ad4827"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: UK MINISTERS FRIGHTENED TO SPEAK OUT!!!</title>
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  Multiculturalism by definintion *actively discourages* integration by &lt;br&gt; promoting diversity. &lt;br&gt; You can&#39;t have your cake and eat it too. &lt;br&gt; Either you promote multiculturalism which promotes diversity and by &lt;br&gt; definition ghettoization or you promote interculturalism which promotes &lt;br&gt; inclusion and by definition integration.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:12:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/de304ae7e46d853a?show_docid=de304ae7e46d853a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/de304ae7e46d853a?show_docid=de304ae7e46d853a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  Why do you think she would? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; How about BC and AD? &lt;br&gt; The best that I have to offer is: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/y94zf2z&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Brock
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com</name>
  <email>ranjit_math...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:10:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/859e5c177aad3bf9/9cdcc178b8f54e19?show_docid=9cdcc178b8f54e19</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/859e5c177aad3bf9/9cdcc178b8f54e19?show_docid=9cdcc178b8f54e19"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Did Jesus exist, and does it matter?</title>
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  Let&#39;s try some case studies, in order to help judge how much it would &lt;br&gt; matter if Jesus didn&#39;t exist: &lt;br&gt; Suppose Gandhi had received (what he thought as) reliable information &lt;br&gt; that Jesus didn&#39;t exist. Would he then have dropped his insistence on &lt;br&gt; non-violent resistance and instead endorsed violent resistance to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:09:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7209231e5395caa1/53fb62ba8591f653?show_docid=53fb62ba8591f653</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7209231e5395caa1/53fb62ba8591f653?show_docid=53fb62ba8591f653"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The Long Trip</title>
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  Steps 1 and 2 were &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;1. Admit you are a sinner. &lt;br&gt; 2. Be willing to turn from sin (repent).&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Now, I am perfectly happy to admit that I have done things in the past &lt;br&gt; which were morally wrong, and I do repent of those and am willing to &lt;br&gt; make an effort not to do them again, but we might have a bit of &lt;br&gt; disagreement about which of the things I&#39;ve done are morally wrong.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:09:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/88c61319abe0cb7f?show_docid=88c61319abe0cb7f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/88c61319abe0cb7f?show_docid=88c61319abe0cb7f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: UK MINISTERS FRIGHTENED TO SPEAK OUT!!!</title>
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  Ask what? I simply agreed with a statement TLC made. &lt;br&gt; There&#39;s no question here in either of our minds.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:06:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/33c6fff7454385f6?show_docid=33c6fff7454385f6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/33c6fff7454385f6?show_docid=33c6fff7454385f6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  Citation? &lt;br&gt; Citation? &lt;br&gt; Consider section 3: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.reformed.org/documents/westminster_conf_of_faith.html#chap19&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Citation? &lt;br&gt; ? &lt;br&gt; Consider: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/nt/theology/hb02-11.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; It worked for God&#39;s glory quite well once, and the story indicated &lt;br&gt; that the battle belongs to the Lord. :) &lt;br&gt; In one specific case the Bible indicates it did. :)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:05:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/1f6be891a3d59bcd?show_docid=1f6be891a3d59bcd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a37c572c9a9a755a/1f6be891a3d59bcd?show_docid=1f6be891a3d59bcd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: UK MINISTERS FRIGHTENED TO SPEAK OUT!!!</title>
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  Yes it is as I&#39;ve explained to you numerous times and in depth.
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  <author>
  <name>Kippers</name>
  <email>ro...@croft6942.freeserve.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T18:02:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/99a07abca8dcd510/18fe3a724a223321?show_docid=18fe3a724a223321</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/99a07abca8dcd510/18fe3a724a223321?show_docid=18fe3a724a223321"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Religious pamphlet: Dressed to be raped</title>
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  Its an interesting topic this one considering I only chimed in given &lt;br&gt; the lack of theists to argue with :) &lt;br&gt; I have thought of a good example of non-violent rape. &lt;br&gt; How about this: &lt;br&gt; The woman goes to a mans house on a date and has her drink spiked with &lt;br&gt; a drug which raises her libido to the point where she craves sex. (I
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:59:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/f3875ac155a8b805?show_docid=f3875ac155a8b805</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/f3875ac155a8b805?show_docid=f3875ac155a8b805"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  Which bits of the Bible are &amp;quot;high and noble&amp;quot; again?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:58:17Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/ba193eac033e2fe4?show_docid=ba193eac033e2fe4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/ba193eac033e2fe4?show_docid=ba193eac033e2fe4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  Consider: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1010/1010_01.asp&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Dearest xeno, I ask you to consider: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0063/0063_01.asp&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Brock
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>flying gorilla</name>
  <email>ryan.kle...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:57:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7c2bbe47ab5eafc3/27f0ac72b854c502?show_docid=27f0ac72b854c502</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7c2bbe47ab5eafc3/27f0ac72b854c502?show_docid=27f0ac72b854c502"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Attack of the teenage evangelicals</title>
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  it doesn&#39;t matter what you think god was trying to destroy, the global &lt;br&gt; flood never happened. Also there were never any giant humans. Also, &lt;br&gt; evolution is a fact. Humans evolved from primitive primates, which &lt;br&gt; evolved from even more primitive animals. &lt;br&gt; by the way, abovetopsecret.com is not a credible source. Nor are any
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Kelsey</name>
  <email>neil_kel...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:56:06Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/859e5c177aad3bf9/697fe6740a4beffc?show_docid=697fe6740a4beffc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/859e5c177aad3bf9/697fe6740a4beffc?show_docid=697fe6740a4beffc"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Did Jesus exist, and does it matter?</title>
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  Once again, you&#39;ve answered your own question (&amp;quot;i see no purpose in &lt;br&gt; dwelling on the subject. please tell me why these things are still so &lt;br&gt; important to you ... &amp;quot;). It&#39;s to protect ourselves from deranged &lt;br&gt; lunatics like you.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kippers</name>
  <email>ro...@croft6942.freeserve.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:54:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/99a07abca8dcd510/eb3fa9712618d2ad?show_docid=eb3fa9712618d2ad</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/99a07abca8dcd510/eb3fa9712618d2ad?show_docid=eb3fa9712618d2ad"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Religious pamphlet: Dressed to be raped</title>
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  Lets look at a specific scenario: &lt;br&gt; A man goes on a first date with a woman. &lt;br&gt; They have great time and a lot drink and go back to her house. &lt;br&gt; They end up in bed together and she willingly engages in foreplay &lt;br&gt; Soon they are naked and she realizes things are going a bit too far &lt;br&gt; and says she thinks he should leave.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rupert</name>
  <email>rupertmccal...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T17:51:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/712dabe656eae9a9/227d27223833cfac?show_docid=227d27223833cfac</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.tk/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/712dabe656eae9a9/227d27223833cfac?show_docid=227d27223833cfac"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Simple challenge</title>
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  Well, you&#39;re right. The points made by Chalmers in this paper do help &lt;br&gt; JFG to make his case that consciousness is not purely a matter of &lt;br&gt; physical processes. Chalmers does at least concede that the &amp;quot;easy &lt;br&gt; problems&amp;quot; will be solved within a century or two, and I don&#39;t think &lt;br&gt; that this should be trivialised, so this is part of the point of the
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